Sectional density and overall weight

In the Rigby 7x57mm he used round nose 173 grain FMJ bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2,300 fps and in the.303 British the military round nose 215 grain FMJ with a muzzle velocity of 2,100 fps: both of which he described as being about ideal for the job they were called on to do.

In the Rigby 7x57mm he used round nose 173 grain FMJ bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2,300 fps and in the.303 British the military round nose 215 grain FMJ with a muzzle velocity of 2,100 fps: both of which he described as being about ideal for the job they were called on to do.

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Look at the increase in weight between the 7 and the .303 and then the decrease in velocity to do same job apparently pretty equally.
I keep coming back to the old statement about terminal ballistics. Double the weight to double the energy, double the speed to quadruple the energy - or percentages of such increases.

Remember when these cartridges came into being - they were the best there was at the time.

In the early years they were the only smokeless powder rounds.

Some questions !
1 - What is the optimum speed for soft point bullet use ?
2 - Same question a bit too the side, what is the optimum speed for penetration.
3 - Then,at what speed does peripheral meat damage start occurring ?
4 - Do pointed bullets do less meat damage than round or flat bullet tips ?
5 - Does a bullet that enters and exits cause less meat damage than one that dumps all its energy into target?
6 - Does a bullet that stays together in a clean mushroom do less peripheral meat damage than one that breaks into, say
3 parts, not a bullet that fragments ?

Some questions !
1 - What is the optimum speed for soft point bullet use ? Even a 180gr cup/core bullet out of a 303 at 2400fps causes meat damage. Shooting at a slower speed limits your effective range
2 - Same question a bit too the side, what is the optimum speed for penetration. Depending on bullet type you might find a slower bullet giving better penetration
3 - Then,at what speed does peripheral meat damage start occurring ? Above about 2500fps meat damage increases a lot
4 - Do pointed bullets do less meat damage than round or flat bullet tips ? The more lead exposed the quicker the bullet expands if it is an expanding bullet
5 - Does a bullet that enters and exits cause less meat damage than one that dumps all its energy into target? Theoretically it should as that energy component is what creates more meat damage
6 - Does a bullet that stays together in a clean mushroom do less peripheral meat damage than one that breaks into, say 3 parts, not a bullet that fragments ? It could cause less yes, but a longer bullet path might mean damaging both lungs and not just one

Shoot the animal in the head .. no meat damage and bullet type incidental and academic !
??? :) :)

Shoot the animal in the head .. no meat damage and bullet type incidental and academic !
??? :) :)

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Headshots - wankers and show offs.

The real headshot capable guys, you do not hear of them - professionals mostly, and even they when hunting not for business still shoot behind shoulder fo sport hunting.
Wankers and show offs mainly.

Wankers and show offs mainly.

. . . . and keyboard ninjas and bar bullshitters.

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, its not like that time I shot the running springbuck behind the shoulders at 700 m freehand, you know its true because I didn't try bullshit ya all with a headshot story.

I see no-one noticed the ... SMILEYS
But anyway
There is a guy that has a popular YouTube channel that posts hunting videos where head shots are the norm.
You are welcome to watch the videos and then direct your comments his way

wankers and show offs , keyboard ninjas and bar bullshitters.

Youtube videos are edited to include only the good shots. Just think of the ones without jaws and other wounds. On our hunt this year the story was told of a Mr Moneybags who refused to search for a wounded kudu cow. R5000 was not a problem and he would shoot another. No sympathy for the animal's suffering.

Youtube videos are edited to include only the good shots. Just think of the ones without jaws and other wounds.

Indeed. Yoochoob is about as accurate a reflection of real life as any reality show or sitcom.

Indeed. Yoochoob is about as accurate a reflection of real life as any reality show or sitcom.

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like that Tim Wells arsehole.

Youtube videos are edited to include only the good shots. Just think of the ones without jaws and other wounds. On our hunt this year the story was told of a Mr Moneybags who refused to search for a wounded kudu cow. R5000 was not a problem and he would shoot another. No sympathy for the animal's suffering.

MR Moneybags I would hesitate to suggest is NOT a real hunter
A good farmer / hunting operation would get rid of people like this quite quickly

BTW;
Did someone else go and look for the wounded Kudu ?

On our hunt this year the story was told of a Mr Moneybags who refused to search for a wounded kudu cow. R5000 was not a problem and he would shoot another. No sympathy for the animal's suffering.

I read this again slowly ..
YES .. STORY
I have read this one at numerous places before

Hunting "stories" are about as accurate as ..You-tube !
However what I wrote previously still stands - although the last bit about .. did anyone else follow up the wounded Kudu is perhaps not included in .. "THE STORY" ????

Youtube videos are edited to include only the good shots. Just think of the ones without jaws and other wounds.

Indeed. Yoochoob is about as accurate a reflection of real life as any reality show or sitcom.

There must be a huge number of stupid and gullible people in the World then ?
A "Yoochoob" channel is a business and a lot of people make a lot of money from - "Yoochoob"

Youtube videos are edited to include only the good shots. Just think of the ones without jaws and other wounds.

Indeed. Yoochoob is about as accurate a reflection of real life as any reality show or sitcom.

About - "Accurate"

Perhaps referencing Bryan Litz counts as a .. "reality show or sitcom" ?

Perhaps the reality is in fact in the discernment of the watcher ?