Competency Farce

That's infuriating. For my interest, has the Bonsai some firearms ready to be licensed in his name?

That's infuriating. For my interest, has the Bonsai some firearms ready to be licensed in his name?

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No, how would he? He needs a comp to be licenced.

Firearms that want transferring care nothing for competencies and licenses and all that twaddle. They just know they want transferring into the sweaty hands of those who want need them.

When I went to hand in my daughter's competency, I had an argument with the DFO as I had a passport/birth certificate. The application form only shows ID, so I had to wait a few months until she turned 16 and applied for her ID. Once she got her ID we went and handed in her application.

There have been successful competency applications from kids around 13 years of age. Unless they got themselves an ID at that age, it must have been approved with a birth certificate.

We submitted my 15 year old son's Competency application a few months back. DFO was happy with the birth certificate and no ID but did request a couple of extra character references and followed those up with phone calls to those that had supplied them.

Still awaiting the outcome.

Having Competency refused because your 15 year old doesn't have an ID seems to me like good grounds for an appeal.

Except, by the time the appeal is considered, the 15yr old would be 16... Or older.

It also sounds like this is a refusal to accept the app rather that it being declined on consideration. In matters of bureaucracy petty bureaucrats who want to do
a bit of dick swinging always have the advantage over their employers, i.e. us.

It also sounds like this is a refusal to accept the app rather that it being declined on consideration. In matters of bureaucracy petty bureaucrats who want to do
a bit of dick swinging always have the advantage over their employers, i.e. us.

Too quick on the typing and slow on the reading there. I see Treeman said that it was a decline because of the ID. It is as he said, a farce.

That should be a fairly easy appeal there.

My DFO said an appeal would take anything from from forever to never mind.

My DFO said an appeal would take anything from from forever to never mind.

And your sapling will most likely have an ID before it could even be processed if all went well.

My DFO said an appeal would take anything from from forever to never mind.

If I'm not mistaken, the FCA stipulates a max time frame for an appeal process.

This may be an instance where a good gun lawyer may be worth his price.

My DFO said an appeal would take anything from from forever to never mind.

If I'm not mistaken, the FCA stipulates a max time frame for an appeal process.

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never heard of this.

My DFO said an appeal would take anything from from forever to never mind.

If I'm not mistaken, the FCA stipulates a max time frame for an appeal process.

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never heard of this.

Please have a look at FCA Regulations, sec 91, Appeals procedure.

91.(1)(a) 90 days for applicant to lodge his appeal.
91.(7) 21 days for appeals board to communicate with deciding officer.
91.(10)(a) 45 days to reach a decision.
91.(10)(b) 14 days to notify applicant in writing.
21+45+14=80 days if my arithmetic is still in tact.

Time to study the FCA, or pay a lawyer to do so. The children under 21 who have obtained competency, and/or firearms licenses, have probably done so before the SAPS became stricter with their implementation of the FCA.

If the local DFO is responsible for the decline, you could lodge a complaint with the station commander against the background of the FCA as well as other successful applications. Maybe even try to take it up with the DFO again - also against he background of the FCA and other successful applications.

If someone at the regional office or even higher up is responsible, an appeal or a re-application is probably the only way.

I surely hope you get this through!

Time to study the FCA, or pay a lawyer to do so. The children under 21 who have obtained competency, and/or firearms licenses, have probably done so before the SAPS became stricter with their implementation of the FCA.
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My ouer seun se bevoegdheid (al 4 wapenkategorië) is goedgekeur na 11 maande. Hy was 17 jaar oud ten tye van die aansoek.
Interessant dat die DFO op daardie tydstip aan my gesê het die Bevoegdheid gaan nie goedgekeur word nie. Ek vra toe hoekom nie? Hy voldoen aan al die vereistes. Nee, antwoord die DFO, hy is te jonk. Ek sê toe: Al manier om uit te vind is om die aansoek in te stuur...

Hy is nou 19 en het reeds 6 lisensies op sy naam.

Die jonger boetie is 16 en het eers vir sy ID aansoek gedoen. Die week nadat hy sy ID kaart gaan haal het, toe dien ons sy Bevoegdheid aansoek in.

Ja, na regte behoort die onverkorte geboortesertifikaat aanvaar te word. Dit is die enigste wettige ID vir 'n landsburger onder 16 jaar. Ek weet van 'n jongman wat op 12 jaarige ouderdom al sy bevoegdheid gehad het en op 13 sy eerste lisensie. Dit was 'n klompie jare gelede, hy is nou omtrent 25 jaar oud.

I think this is a way to stop it all getting silly, Cody had a 11 and 9 year old write with him. I in all honesty feel it is a bit of a joke that a 12 year old can be considered legally competent for anything.

21+45+14=80 days if my arithmetic is still in tact.

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All the above is good and well if any notice is taken to it by our clowns at CFR

21+45+14=80 days if my arithmetic is still in tact.

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All the above is good and well if any notice is taken to it by our clowns at CFR

Sometimes you need a competent ring master to get the all clowns in a row...

21+45+14=80 days if my arithmetic is still in tact.

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All the above is good and well if any notice is taken to it by our clowns at CFR

It would be great if the CFR (Registry) could be abolished at a law reform opportunity.

However a concerted effort would be needed from all role players, organisations, individuals, groups, members, owners, lobbyists etc.